<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Ok... SEMBRAVA risolto il problema... ma sembra esserci un ultimo ostacolo.... i torrent che ho messo in prova (sono 6) stanno TUTTI fermi (anche se gli ho dato il via) con la scritta "Connectin to peers"... cosa potrebbe essere il problema??? Se clicco sul file hanno diversi problemi. Li posto qui sotto:</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Helvetica; font-size: 9px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><li style="font-size: 10px; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); ">warning - crypto library not installed</li><li style="font-size: 10px; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); ">Problem connecting to tracker - timeout exceeded</li><li style="font-size: 10px; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); ">Problem connecting to tracker - timed out (x2)</li><li style="font-size: 10px; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); ">Problem connecting to tracker - timeout exceeded</li><li style="font-size: 10px; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); ">Problem connecting to tracker - timed out</li><li style="font-size: 10px; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); ">Problem connecting to tracker - timeout exceeded</li><li style="font-size: 10px; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); ">Problem connecting to tracker - timed out</li><li style="font-size: 10px; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); ">Problem connecting to tracker - timeout exceeded (x2)</li></span><div><br></div><div>Da cosa potrebbe dipendere?? Pensavo che fosse il firewall del router così ho aperte le porte del NAT ma non è cambiato niente... Uff :(</div></div><br><div><div>Il giorno 05/gen/2010, alle ore 13.14, Marcello Semboli ha scritto:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>No ecco il file finiti non li separa, mette tutto insieme...<br>Si, non è un programma, è un sito web, che starta o blocca dei<br>programmi demoni che fanno tutto da soli.<br>Io mi ci trovo di un bene...<br><br>Il 05 gennaio 2010 11.36, Andrea Ciani &lt;<a href="mailto:cianiandrea10@gmail.com">cianiandrea10@gmail.com</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br><blockquote type="cite">Ottimo, allora mi capisci ^^. &nbsp;Dunque... siccome uso da poco linux e non sono proprio un fenomeno puoi spiegarmi un po' come fare? Ma Torrentflux ha la possibilità di muovere in una cartella separata i download completi, la possibilità di far partire automaticamente i .torrent contenuti in una specifica cartella?? Se si va benissimo anche quello! ... e per deluge e transmission??? Sto riempendo il pc di client torrent.... ?.?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Te come mi consigli di fare con torrentflux?? Scaricare la deb e basta?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Il giorno 05/gen/2010, alle ore 11.15, Marcello Semboli ha scritto:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ahh ora ho capito.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Io ho un vecchio iBook (G3) con ubuntu convertito a serverino (niente<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">grafica) e lo uso proprio per scaricare.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Io dopo tanti tentativi c'ho messo Torrentflux. E' una webUI scritta<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">in PHP che usa le librerie in python di Bittornado.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">C'e' anche il deb, lo puoi istallare senza problemi.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Io ho preferito scaricare i sorgenti e metterlo su da me.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Comunque usare bittorrent da linea di comando è improponibile. Meglio la webUI.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Io di client bittorrent per Linux ne ho provati diversi e torrentflux<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">penso sia l'unico che non mi ha dato mai problemi.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Va bè anche ktorrent va benissimo.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Il 05 gennaio 2010 11.09, Andrea Ciani &lt;<a href="mailto:cianiandrea10@gmail.com">cianiandrea10@gmail.com</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">In realtà lo scopo è quello normale di bittorrent! La scelta di usarlo da linea di comando (o comunque di configurare al massimo una webUI) è "dettata" dal fatto che ho ubuntu server... quindi niente GUI! Ho un pc piuttosto vecchiotto e volevo qualcosa di rapito così non ho installato l'interfaccia grafica (anche perché non avrei comunque un monitor sempre a disposizione per controllarlo). Sto installando e monitorando tutto tramite ssh e webUI.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Quindi non ho esigenze "particolari" se non quelle di trovare un buon client torrent (come utorret) da poter usare tramite linea di comando. Se poi c'è anche la possibilità di usarlo tramite webui meglio ancora!<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ho visto che deluge ha tutto quindi sembrerebbe perfetto! E' solo che non capisco perchè debba dare quegli errori! Eppure l'ho scaricato con apt-get dai Repository ufficiali...<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">????? Stano...!!!<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Il giorno 05/gen/2010, alle ore 09.41, Marcello Semboli ha scritto:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Scusa, ma perché vuoi usare bittorrent da linea di comando?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Forse se ci dici lo scopo finale riusciamo a aiutarti meglio...<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Il 05 gennaio 2010 01.36, Andrea Ciani &lt;<a href="mailto:cianiandrea10@gmail.com">cianiandrea10@gmail.com</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ho scaricato ed installato Deluge 1.1.9. Ho installato solo i pacchetti deluge-core, webui e console (dal momento che non ho interfaccia grafica), ma sembra proprio non partire! Voglio dire... se provo a far partire la web ui mi dice che due pacchetti (phyton mi pare) sono "deprecated" (vecchi??) e non so con cosa rinpiaziarl! Per quanto riguarda invece la gestione via console... non capisco proprio cosa c'è che non va... mi date un dritta??? Ho cercato in mille forum... il meglio che ho trovato è questo... ma non funziona... <a href="http://www.nekos.org/2009/06/configurazione-deluge-daemon.html">http://www.nekos.org/2009/06/configurazione-deluge-daemon.html</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Qualcuno mi sa aiutare??<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Il giorno 04/gen/2010, alle ore 18.08, robi ha scritto:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">io utilizzo DELUGE che al seguito di alcuni problemi iniziali al momento va davvero bene...<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">ciao<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Andrea Ciani ha scritto:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Salve a tutti. Qualcuno saprebbe consigliarmi un client BitTorrent completo (ovvero con tutte le funzioni base) che può girare anche solamente da linea di comando???<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">In questo momento ho installato Transmission ma gli mancano molte funzioni (tipo l'avvio automatico dei torrent, la ricerca dei torrent in una cartella speciale, lo spostamento dei torrent in una cartella separata una volta completi etc...) inoltre ha un'interfaccia da Browser veramente scarna e con poche funzioni (secondo me).<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Qualcuno saprebbe darmi qualche consiglio???<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">------------------------------------------------<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Andrea Ciani<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="ci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ote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Tecnica mailing list<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it">Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://liste.siena.linux.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tecnica">http://liste.siena.linux.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tecnica</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">____________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Marcello Semboli<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://dinogen.hacknight.org/">http://dinogen.hacknight.org/</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">"Io non doppioclicco." (Davide Bianchi)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Tecnica mailing list<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it">Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://liste.siena.linux.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tecnica">http://liste.siena.linux.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tecnica</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">------------------------------------------------<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Andrea Ciani<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Tecnica mailing list<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it">Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://liste.siena.linux.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tecnica">http://liste.siena.linux.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tecnica</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">____________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Marcello Semboli<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://dinogen.hacknight.org/">http://dinogen.hacknight.org/</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">"Io non doppioclicco." (Davide Bianchi)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Tecnica mailing list<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it">Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://liste.siena.linux.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tecnica">http://liste.siena.linux.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tecnica</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">------------------------------------------------<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Andrea Ciani<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Tecnica mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it">Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://liste.siena.linux.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tecnica">http://liste.siena.linux.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tecnica</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br><br><br>-- <br>____________________________<br>Marcello Semboli<br><a href="http://dinogen.hacknight.org/">http://dinogen.hacknight.org/</a><br><br>"Io non doppioclicco." (Davide Bianchi)<br>_______________________________________________<br>Tecnica mailing list<br>Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it<br>http://liste.siena.linux.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tecnica<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
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