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    Anche io ho la versione non-3D con il monitor FHD antiglare ma
    processore i7.<br>
    A differenza della nostra versione, quella con 3D non utilizza mai
    la scheda Intel e optimus e lavora sempre con la nvidia.<br>
    <br>
    Ho anche la tua stessa conf dei dischi, ho installato questi driver
    qui: <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/it/it/itdhs1/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?DriverId=5NKNH&amp;FileId=2813631894">http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/it/it/itdhs1/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?DriverId=5NKNH&amp;FileId=2813631894</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/it/it/itdhs1/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?DriverId=0373W&amp;FileId=2796124420">http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/it/it/itdhs1/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?DriverId=0373W&amp;FileId=2796124420</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/it/it/itdhs1/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?DriverId=4GPJW&amp;FileId=2796125870">http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/it/it/itdhs1/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?DriverId=4GPJW&amp;FileId=2796125870</a><br>
    e non ho problemi ad eseguire giochi 3D senza bisogno di settare
    qualcosa in particolare. Non sono proprio aggiornati, ma meglio di
    niente!<br>
    <br>
    Per il quickset questi qui:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/it/it/itdhs1/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?DriverId=54X1W&amp;FileId=2796127705">http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/it/it/itdhs1/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?DriverId=54X1W&amp;FileId=2796127705</a><br>
    e mi funziona.<br>
    <br>
    Questa la pagina con la lista dei drivers:<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/it/it/itdhs1">http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/it/it/itdhs1</a><br>
    <br>
    Molto probabilmente hai il bios con release A14 (come me), che
    risolve alcuni bug e ne crea di nuovi... stiamo tutti aspettando
    l'A15...<br>
    <br>
    Per i nostri modelli ho visto che gli altri utilizzano ironhide per
    la completa gestione del reparto video sotto linux, ma non ho ancora
    provato ad installarlo.<br>
    Dato che ad Arezzo non ho adsl, appena ho tempo a lavoro (dove la
    banda non manca di certo) provo ad installare ubuntu e ti so dire
    come va. La live mi ha funzionato alla prima.<br>
    <br>
    Saluti<br>
    Andrea Mancini<br>
    <br>
    On 10/01/2012 13:08, bartrosso wrote:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CA+1kOcJbofK-7xscka4FxARNFU566j_e-Cwoj5sSBi9PO68mrQ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <p>Quella senza 3d. Anche se il pannello e' molto strano. Come se
        avesse una stratificazione visibile in controluce .&nbsp; processore&nbsp;
        i5&nbsp; </p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 10/gen/2012 12:24, "biso" &lt;<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:biso@biso.it">biso@biso.it</a>&gt;
        ha scritto:<br type="attribution">
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div>
            <div style="font:normal 13px Arial">
              <div>Hai la versione con 3D o senza?</div>
              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div>Cambia radicalmente!<br>
                <br>
                Ciao </div>
              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div><span
                  style="font-family:Arial;font-size:11px;color:#5f5f5f">Da</span><span
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                    target="_blank">tecnica-bounces@liste.siena.linux.it</a></span></div>
              <div><span
                  style="font-family:Arial;font-size:11px;color:#5f5f5f">A</span><span
style="font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;color:#5f5f5f;padding-left:5px">:
                  "Lista Tecnica del Siena Linux User Group" <a
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              <div><span
                  style="font-family:Arial;font-size:11px;color:#5f5f5f">Cc</span><span
style="font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;color:#5f5f5f;padding-left:5px">:
                </span></div>
              <div><span
                  style="font-family:Arial;font-size:11px;color:#5f5f5f">Data</span><span
style="font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;color:#5f5f5f;padding-left:5px">:
                  Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:38:37 +0100</span></div>
              <div><span
                  style="font-family:Arial;font-size:11px;color:#5f5f5f">Oggetto</span><span
style="font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;color:#5f5f5f;padding-left:5px">:
                  Re: [Tecnica] dell xps 17 (l702x)</span></div>
              <br>
              <div>
                scusate il lungo post, ma non ho una postazione di
                lavoro linux e la cosa mi provoca irritazioni cutanee, <br>
                <br>
                riprendo la discussione, <br>
                allora, io non so come mai, ma ho esattamente fatto come
                te .<br>
                <br>
                Ho un SSD da 120 un force 3 della corsair che va in
                SATAIII senza nessun problema (pavonegg, pavonegg) per
                l'OS e un disco da 500 per i documenti.<br>
                I driver video sotto windows funzionano, vengono visti
                da pannello, ma come eseguo una operazione su un gioco
                (es. PES 2012) non viene rilevata, nonostante da
                pannello Nvidia abbia configurato la scelta della scheda
                Nvidia per le applicazioni 3d.<br>
                Il quickset da sito ufficiale mi risponde che non
                posseggo l'hardware necessario, e noto in installazione
                che nell'elenco modelli supportati non appare l702x ma
                solo il modello l701x, cosa che non fa partire
                l'installer, e volendo procedere manualmente
                all'isntallazione dell'inf, ho il problema che i
                quickbutton non vengono rilevati coem hardware mancante
                da windows...<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                Per Linux, cosa buona e giusta, &egrave; che al caricamento di
                qualsivoglia immagine o distribuzione, o supporto
                (cd,dvd,pennausb, ubuntu, kubuntu , 10 , 11, ...)
                ottengo un errore di timeout su caricamento di un certo
                udev (numero variabile 117,135,120,...) in
                sbin/modprobe, e la cosa strana &egrave; che parte sempre dopo
                un messaggio di avvenuto caricamento di uan qualche non
                meglio identificata SCSI device (che non credo manco di
                avere, forse qualcosa di virtualizzato durante il
                mounting dell'immagine live, ) <br>
                <br>
                Ho provato ad eseguire anche l'installazione e va
                avanti, ma solo se disabilit gli acpi (controlli
                voltaggi e stati di sistema), cosa che provoca un bel
                blocco appena lo schermo va in sospensione o risparmio
                energetico, (anche durante l'installazione).<br>
                <br>
                Ho letto il thread e per questo im arrabbio in quanto
                manco li hanno problemi di installazione.<br>
                <br>
                Ho usato per fare le prove, combinazioni diverse di hard
                disk tutti funzionanti, (solo SSD; ssd+hd dati, solo hd
                dati, vecchio disco, vecchie partizioni, nuove
                partizioni , etc) <br>
                tutte con stesso esito, <br>
                memtest tutto ok, <br>
                da bios nessuna configurazione particolare su acpi,
                hybrid o altro.<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                L'unica &egrave; che una volta installati correttament ei
                driver in windows per la gestione hybrid, qualcosa non
                cambi a livello di rom bios, e allora nche il
                riconoscimento hw futuro da parte di linux vada a posto.<br>
                <br>
                Intanto stasera ripristino la recovery image di dell con
                windows seven full of shit version, poi faccio sapere..<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                grazie a tutti epr l'aiuto che sempre date puntuali..<br>
                <br>
                bartrosso ilTanga francesco<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <div class="gmail_quote">2012/1/6 Andrea Mancini <span
                    dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:biso@biso.it" target="_blank">biso@biso.it</a>&gt;</span><br>
                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                    <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Anche io ho
                      appena acquistato questo notebook.... questo ti
                      potrebbe aiutare:<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.hwupgrade.it/forum/showthread.php?t=2390919"
                        target="_blank">http://www.hwupgrade.it/forum/showthread.php?t=2390919</a><br>
                      <br>
                      Saluti<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                          Andrea Mancini</font></span>
                      <div>&gt;
                        <div><br>
                          <br>
                          On 06/01/2012 16:48, Moreno Bartalucci wrote:
                          <blockquote type="cite">
                            <div>&gt; Domanda banale: hai visto se ci
                              sono aggiornamenti del BIOS?</div>
                            <div>&gt; <br>
                            </div>
                            <div>&gt; Altra cosa, non so se c'entra, io
                              ho un Dell precision m6400.</div>
                            <div>&gt; Tempo fa mi succedeva che, a
                              batteria e senza il monitor esterno, dopo
                              un po' di tempo si bloccava.&nbsp;</div>
                            <div>&gt; Ho scoperto che la scheda video si
                              impallava quando il proprio processore
                              andava alla frequenza minima.&nbsp;</div>
                            <div>&gt; Forzandolo a frequenza massima
                              andava tutto bene.&nbsp;</div>
                            <div>&gt; Dell mi ha sostituito la scheda
                              video.&nbsp;</div>
                            <div>&gt; Ripeto: magari non c'entra nulla,
                              per&ograve;...</div>
                            <div>&gt; <br>
                            </div>
                            <div>&gt; Ciao,</div>
                            <div>&gt; <br>
                            </div>
                            <div>&gt; Moreno<br>
                              <br>
                              Inviato da iPhone</div>
                            <div>&gt; <br>
                              Il giorno 06/gen/2012, alle ore 16:26,
                              bartrosso &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:bartrosso@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">bartrosso@gmail.com</a>&gt;

                              ha scritto:<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote type="cite">
                              <div>&gt; perfetto, non funziona
                                assolutamente.<br>
                                il problema &egrave; che l'acpi serve eccome,
                                appena mi va in risparmio energetico lo
                                schermo, (dieci secondi in batteria) si
                                abbuia tutto e non si riaccende pi&ugrave;.<br>
                                Ed &egrave; stato il primo problema
                                riscontrato.<br>
                                <br>
                                Ora , il mio pc con stesso modello,
                                matricola e hw di molti altri
                                funzionanti con linux, sembra non
                                gradire qualcosa.<br>
                                Sui vari forum vedo persone che se hanno
                                problemi riguarda la hybrid graphic
                                card, intel combo nvidia che da problemi
                                a causa di driver troppo recenti per
                                nvidia, ma per ilr esto sembro l'unico<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                boh, ora provo archilinux da netinstall
                                e vedo cosa mi ridice, ma &egrave; strano forte
                                questo tipo di blocco totale del
                                processo di installazione con timeout
                                diversi in base al supporto che utilizzo
                                ..<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                tanga<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">2012/1/5
                                  bartrosso <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:bartrosso@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">bartrosso@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                    style="margin:0 0 0
                                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                    solid;padding-left:1ex"> come ho
                                    messo l'opzione noacpi &egrave; partito
                                    senza problemi, quindi credo di
                                    capire, che la nuova sandbridge con
                                    gestione migliorata
                                    dell'alimentazione e degli stati di
                                    sospensione non vada proprio al
                                    meglio<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    boh, se vedo che non va cambio
                                    architettura, tanto per ora &egrave; tutto
                                    vuoto il sistema.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    tanga<br>
                                    <br>
                                    grazie mille <br>
                                    <br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">2012/1/5
                                      francis drake <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:janhus@gmail.com"
                                          target="_blank">janhus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
                                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                        style="margin:0 0 0
                                        .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                        solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                        <div>&gt;
                                          <div>&gt; Prova un po' con una
                                            distribuzione diversa. Se
                                            hai un dvd usb prova
                                            Archlinux che probabilmente
                                            la fa poco lunga. Un bel
                                            netinstall (quindi iso da
                                            150 mega s&igrave; e no),
                                            l'attacchi al cavo di rete e
                                            poi VIA!!! pi&ugrave; veloce della
                                            luce. quando hai fatto
                                            l'installazione base
                                            seguendo il wiki di
                                            Archlinux ci installi il de
                                            che ti pare (mi par di
                                            capire KDE). A me funziona
                                            su qualsiasi hardware,
                                            probabilmente anche sul
                                            dell. Per la scheda nvidia i
                                            driver giusti sono i
                                            nouveau.
                                            <div>&gt; Facce sape' ...</div>
                                            <div>&gt; <br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>&gt; S.<span><font
                                                  color="#888888"><br
                                                    clear="all">
                                                  <div>&gt; <br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  -- <br>
                                                  <div>&gt;
                                                    ______________________________________________________________________</div>
                                                  <div>&gt; :: Sir
                                                    Francis Drake</div>
                                                  <div>&gt; :: <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:janhus@gmail.com" target="_blank">janhus@gmail.com</a> :: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://francisdrake.afasici.net"
                                                      target="_blank">http://francisdrake.afasici.net</a></div>
                                                  <div>&gt; :: twitname:
                                                    francis_drake66 ::
                                                    Skype:
                                                    francis.drake666</div>
                                                  <div>&gt; :: linux
                                                    user: #527038</div>
                                                  <div>&gt; :: proud
                                                    associate member of
                                                    FSF: #9177</div>
                                                  <div>&gt;
                                                    ______________________________________________________________________</div>
                                                  <div>&gt; "E quando
                                                    tutto andava a
                                                    catafascio / nessuno
                                                    ci faceva tanto
                                                    caso"</div>
                                                  <div>&gt; <br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <br>
                                                </font></span></div>
                                            <br>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
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                                    </div>
                                    <div>&gt;
                                      <div>&gt; <br>
                                        <br clear="all">
                                        <br>
                                        -- <br>
                                        Sono ci&ograve; che sono grazie a
                                        quello che siamo tutti,<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        un mio amico mi ha detto che
                                        ubuntu significa: "Non so
                                        configurare Debian.."<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        &laquo;Immagina se ogni persona sulla
                                        terra potesse condividere con
                                        accesso libero e totale tutta la
                                        conoscenza umana.&raquo;<br>
                                        &#8212; Jimmy Wales, fondatore di
                                        Wikipedia<br>
                                        <br>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                </div>
                                <br>
                                <br clear="all">
                                <br>
                                -- <br>
                                Sono ci&ograve; che sono grazie a quello che
                                siamo tutti,<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                un mio amico mi ha detto che ubuntu
                                significa: "Non so configurare Debian.."<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                &laquo;Immagina se ogni persona sulla terra
                                potesse condividere con accesso libero e
                                totale tutta la conoscenza umana.&raquo;<br>
                                &#8212; Jimmy Wales, fondatore di Wikipedia<br>
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                                    target="_blank">Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it</a></span><br>
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                            <pre>_______________________________________________
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                    _______________________________________________<br>
                    Tecnica mailing list<br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it"
                      target="_blank">Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it</a><br>
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                      href="http://liste.siena.linux.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tecnica"
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                <br>
                -- <br>
                Sono ci&ograve; che sono grazie a quello che siamo tutti,<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                un mio amico mi ha detto che ubuntu significa: "Non so
                configurare Debian.."<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                &laquo;Immagina se ogni persona sulla terra potesse
                condividere con accesso libero e totale tutta la
                conoscenza umana.&raquo;<br>
                &#8212; Jimmy Wales, fondatore di Wikipedia<br>
                <br>
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          <br>
          _______________________________________________<br>
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            href="mailto:Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it">Tecnica@liste.siena.linux.it</a><br>
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            target="_blank">http://liste.siena.linux.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tecnica</a><br>
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